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. >> now you are jack kennedy. [laughter] >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys are not used to doing bipartisan deals. that is how you get things done. >> the republican congress working? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts. he did not demonize them, he did not demagogue them. he met with those party leaders every week. he did not compromise principles. he balanced the budget. >> why isn't he contesting massachusetts? >> what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy? >> let the taxes expire like they were supposed to on these millionaires. we cannot afford $800 billion going to people making a minimum of a million dollars. they do not need it, martha. those 120,000 families make $800 million a year. why is my friend -- >> can you declare anything off- limits? home mortgage deductions? >> this taxes a million small businesses. >> 97% of the small businesses make less than $250,000 a year. >> this taxes a million people. >> 97%. >> and you'r
. >> now you are jack kennedy. [laughter] >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys are not used to doing bipartisan deals. that is how you get things done. >> the republican congress working? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts. he did not demonize them, he did not demagogue them. he met with those party leaders every week. he did not compromise principles. he balanced the budget. >> why isn't he...
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. >> warner: you're no jack kennedy. >> had no impact on the race. four years ago when palin and biden debated, biden's victory over palin added to the problems that mccn was having and furthered that. but by and large we don't see these debates as really very consequential in terms of a horse race. >> warner: imagine we can expect a large audience anyway. andy, susan and stu, thank you. >> thanks. you. >> brown: finally tonight: one of the world's leading story- tellers, who became part of one of the world's most dramatic stories. it was in 1989 that salman rushdie's novel was denounced by muslims as blasphemy against the prophet mohammed igniting a fire storm. the book was banned and violent protest took place in parts of the islamic world. bookstores in britain that carried it were bombed. within several years the book's japannese translator killed, its norwegian publisher ahead. khomeini spiritual leader of islam's republic issued a decree for his death. the author went into hiding for near a decade before the fatwa was lifted. now salman rushdie
. >> warner: you're no jack kennedy. >> had no impact on the race. four years ago when palin and biden debated, biden's victory over palin added to the problems that mccn was having and furthered that. but by and large we don't see these debates as really very consequential in terms of a horse race. >> warner: imagine we can expect a large audience anyway. andy, susan and stu, thank you. >> thanks. you. >> brown: finally tonight: one of the world's leading story-...
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. >> jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. bill: does this year's vp debate carry more weight than normal? patti ann: also, why hundreds of retirees are now clashing with police in greece. bill: police are saying they stopped an apparent terror attack just in time after finding a man with maps of several churches and material needed to make multiple bombs. listen. >> any time you see a sack full of bottles, you know, with tape around them and a bunch of material, or, you know, thinking like that, you know, that is not normal crash. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. bill: they are pweurpbg u.s. flags and the eu flags in the streets of athens, greece this morning. apparently these are hundreds of retirees clashing with the police during a protest against looming budget cuts in athens. greece is currently being forced
. >> jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. bill: does this year's vp debate carry more weight than normal? patti ann: also, why hundreds of retirees are now clashing with police in greece. bill: police are saying they stopped an apparent terror attack just in time after finding a man with maps of several churches and material needed to make multiple bombs. listen. >> any time you see a sack full of bottles, you know, with tape around them and a bunch of...
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. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> well that was interruption. that was also a put-down and vice president biden woos factually wrong. jfk, ronald reagan, george w. bush, all of them tax rates, and the end result was a an increase in money flowing to the treasury. revenues went up when tax rates went down. joe biden was wrong. jamie: stu varney doing fact check for us this morning. bill: last night the twitter verse was going nuts. the thing was going to explode if it went more. that line was the most tweeted comment last night. one minute after the line about jack kennedy, 58,000 tweets. that is what was going on out there. jamie: it is a talker. bill: we're just getting started. some on the right feeling vice president biden interrupted congressman ryan too much. we'll can the romney team this morning about all the morning after. jamie: sarah palin knows exactly what it is like to debate joe biden. ahead we'll get her reaction. bill: vice president's biden and laffer and facial expresses getting a lot of headlines. did ha help or hurt his campa
. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> well that was interruption. that was also a put-down and vice president biden woos factually wrong. jfk, ronald reagan, george w. bush, all of them tax rates, and the end result was a an increase in money flowing to the treasury. revenues went up when tax rates went down. joe biden was wrong. jamie: stu varney doing fact check for us this morning. bill: last night the twitter verse was going nuts. the thing was going to explode if it went more. that...
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. >> jack kennedy. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together -- i understand you guys -- >> we told each other what we're going to do when we did it. when we did it with reagan, here's what he said. fill in the detail. >> you work with congress. look, let me say it this way. >> coming from a republican congress, working bipartisanly? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts, where 87% of the legislators he served with were democrat. he didn't demonize them. he didn't demagogue them. he reached across the aisle. he didn't compromise principles. >> and you saw what happened. if he did such a great job -- >> vice president -- >> why isn't he even contesting massachusetts? >> what would you suggest, beyond raising taxes on the wealthy, that would substantially reduce -- >> just let the taxes expire like they're supposed to on those millionaires. we can't afford $800 billion going to people making a minimum of $1 million. they do not need it, martha. those 120,000 from
. >> jack kennedy. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together -- i understand you guys -- >> we told each other what we're going to do when we did it. when we did it with reagan, here's what he said. fill in the detail. >> you work with congress. look, let me say it this way. >> coming from a republican congress, working bipartisanly? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts, where...
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. >> it has been done before, jack kennedy lowered taxes and increased growth. >> now are you jack kennedy. >> this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> that's right. >> i understand you aren't used to being by artisan. >> but we told what we were going to do, when we did it with reagan we said here is what we will cut, this is what he said. show the details. >> that is how you get things done, let me say it this way. >> that is coming from the republican congress, working bipartisanly? 7% rating? come on. >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87% of the legislators he served with were democrats. he didn't demonize them. he didn't demogue them. he met with those party leaders every week. he reached across the aisle, he didn't compromise principless. >> and you saw what happened. >> he balanced the budget. >> if he did such a great job-- why isn't he even contesting massachusetts. >> what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy that would substantially -- >> just let taxes expire like they are supposed to on those millionaires.
. >> it has been done before, jack kennedy lowered taxes and increased growth. >> now are you jack kennedy. >> this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> that's right. >> i understand you aren't used to being by artisan. >> but we told what we were going to do, when we did it with reagan we said here is what we will cut, this is what he said. show the details. >> that is how you get things done, let me say it...
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. >> now you are jack kennedy. [overlapping dialogue] >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this -- >> that's right. >> i understand you are not used -- >> we told you what we are going to do. when we did it with reagan, he said, we are going to do this. >> that's how you get things done. let me say it this way -- >> from the republican congress, working bipartisanly? 7% rating. >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87% of the legislators were democrats. he didn't demonize them or demagogue them, he met with them every week, he reached across the aisle and he balanced the budget [overlapping dialogue] >> martha: vice-president, what -- >> [overlapping dialogue] -- >> why isn't he even contesting massachusetts? >> martha: what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy -- >> just let the tax expire like they are supposed to those millionaires. we can't afford $800 billion going to people making a minimum of $1 million. they do not need it, martha. those 120,000 families make $8
. >> now you are jack kennedy. [overlapping dialogue] >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this -- >> that's right. >> i understand you are not used -- >> we told you what we are going to do. when we did it with reagan, he said, we are going to do this. >> that's how you get things done. let me say it this way -- >> from the republican congress, working bipartisanly? 7% rating. >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87%...
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. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan -- republicans -- >> this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> that's right. >> i understand you guys aren't used to doing bipartisan deals. >> we told each other what we're going to do. you said, here are the things we're going to cut. here's what he said. >> fill in the details. that's exactly -- >> fill in the details. >> that's how you get things -- >> that's coming from a republican congress working bipartisanly? 7% rating? come on. >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87% of the legislators he served with were democrats. he didn't demonize them. he didn't demagogue them. he met with those party leaders every week. he reached across the aisle. he didn't compromise principles. >> you saw what happened. >> he balanced the budget. >> if he did such a great job -- why is he contesting massachusetts? >> vice president, what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy that would substantially reduce the defic
. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan -- republicans -- >> this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> that's right. >> i understand you guys aren't used to doing bipartisan deals. >> we told each other what we're going to do. you said, here are the things we're going to cut. here's what he said. >> fill in the details. that's exactly -- >> fill in the details. >> that's how you get things --...
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. >> now you're jack kennedy. this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys aren't used to doing bipartisan deals. >> we told you what we're going to do. this is what we said what we're going to cut. >> that's how you get things done, you work with congress. let me say it this way. >> republican congress working bipartisanly. 7% rating. come on. >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87% of the ladies and gentlemen slators he served with were democrats. he didn't demonize them dema gog them. he met with them every week, he reached across the aisle, didn't compromise principles, found common ground and balanced the budget. [ all speak at once ] >> why is he even contesting massachusetts? >> what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy that would substantially reduce -- >> just let taxes expire like they're supposed to on those millionaires. we can't afford $800 billion going to people making a minimum of a million dollars. they do not nee
. >> now you're jack kennedy. this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys aren't used to doing bipartisan deals. >> we told you what we're going to do. this is what we said what we're going to cut. >> that's how you get things done, you work with congress. let me say it this way. >> republican congress working bipartisanly. 7% rating. come on. >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87% of the...
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. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> now that moment drew the most twitter traffic, 58,000 tweets out of a total of 3.5 million. big bird drew a quarter million tweets in last week's presidential debate. >> john dickerson is with us. john, did joe biden achieve what they wanted him to do in this debate which is to stop mitt romney's momentum? >> in part. what he did is give democrats something to cheer about. i mean joe biden was out there, hitting ryan and romney on everything that democrats said president obama had left on the table. in fact in one answer he did three of those attacks all in a single sentence. he came with a full set of weaponry and used everything he could. now does that stop the momentum of romney? what romney did was two things. he energized his base and reached out to swing voters. i'm not sure joe biden in that constantly laughing and interrupting did much with swing voters. may have even turned them off. swing voters will make their decision on the top of the ticket. if that's a down side one that won't matter. >> you just mentioned there's a lot of
. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> now that moment drew the most twitter traffic, 58,000 tweets out of a total of 3.5 million. big bird drew a quarter million tweets in last week's presidential debate. >> john dickerson is with us. john, did joe biden achieve what they wanted him to do in this debate which is to stop mitt romney's momentum? >> in part. what he did is give democrats something to cheer about. i mean joe biden was out there, hitting...
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. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> you can cut tax rates by 20%. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. it's been done before. it's precisely what we're prosing. >> never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times actual. >> i never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: well, it's a busy day for three of the four guys on the ticket here. you've got mitt romney who starts his day in north carolina, hits virginia and meets up though with paul ryan in the evening for a joint event in ohio. joe biden, he's going to paul ryan's home state in wisconsin. president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt? >> all right, chuck todd, thank you very much. rachel maddow is the left of "the rachel maddow show" on msnbc and going into this joe biden needed to steady the ship and calm the democratic side. did he accomplish that? >> democrats are psyched that he had such a good night. yo
. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> you can cut tax rates by 20%. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. it's been done before. it's precisely what we're prosing. >> never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times actual. >> i never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: well, it's a busy day for three of...
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first one was jack kennedy. and he said now you are jack kennedy. listen to what he was saying >> chris: we knew because paul ryan said. i expect joe biden to come at me like a cannon ball. he seemed like he was amped up on 5 hour energy . the very first topic libya and it was tough on the administration. but there was something that the administration had in its pocket and that is mr. joe biden. made stuff up and forget about the house testimony we heard and experts and people on the ground said we asked for more help and mr. security. joe biden said that never happened. watch. >> there were no protest why did that go on. >> it is what we were told by the intelligence community. and they told us that and they learned more facts, they chaced their assessment. >> they wanted more security there. >> we were not told that. and we did not know they wanted more security. at the time we said exactly what the intelligence community told us they knew, that was the assessment. as they changed their view we made it clear. >> brian: real quick. secrets because
first one was jack kennedy. and he said now you are jack kennedy. listen to what he was saying >> chris: we knew because paul ryan said. i expect joe biden to come at me like a cannon ball. he seemed like he was amped up on 5 hour energy . the very first topic libya and it was tough on the administration. but there was something that the administration had in its pocket and that is mr. joe biden. made stuff up and forget about the house testimony we heard and experts and people on the...
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in the meantime go back to jack for the cafferty file. jack. >> the question this hour is why obama won't talk about benghazi instead of talking about big bird. pete writes from georgia, jack, consider his worshipping followers. 90% of them probably think benghazi's an italian line of shoes while feeling right at home with stories about big bird. for him to deal with reality on any is a line of italian shoes. >> rod writes that obama has to distract any attention from his record. they failed to secure the consulate in ben zazy. r writes personally, i don't want him to talk about it, especially when there's an investigation going on. did it not occur to anyone that there's a reason no terrorist group has taken responsibility? do you think it's a safe idea for the president or the secretary of state to broadcast what they know about the situation? mark says obama can avoid talking about what happened because the liberal media won't ask him the tough questions. b.j. says the administration can't talk about anything bad that happened on the a
in the meantime go back to jack for the cafferty file. jack. >> the question this hour is why obama won't talk about benghazi instead of talking about big bird. pete writes from georgia, jack, consider his worshipping followers. 90% of them probably think benghazi's an italian line of shoes while feeling right at home with stories about big bird. for him to deal with reality on any is a line of italian shoes. >> rod writes that obama has to distract any attention from his record....
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. >> now you are jack kennedy. [laughter] >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys are not used to doing bipartisan deals. that is how you get things done. >> the republican congress working? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts. he did not demonize them, he did not demagogue them. he met with those party leaders every week. he did not compromise principles. he balanced the budget. >> why isn't he contesting massachusetts? >> what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy? >> let the taxes expire like they were supposed to on these millionaires. we cannot afford $800 billion going to people making a minimum of a million dollars. they do not need it, martha. those 120,000 families make $800 million a year. why is my friend -- >> can you declare anything off- limits? home mortgage deductions? >> this taxes a million small businesses. >> 97% of the small businesses make less than $250,000 a year. >> this taxes a million people. >> 97%. >> and you'r
. >> now you are jack kennedy. [laughter] >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys are not used to doing bipartisan deals. that is how you get things done. >> the republican congress working? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts. he did not demonize them, he did not demagogue them. he met with those party leaders every week. he did not compromise principles. he balanced the budget. >> why isn't he...
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kennedy. but the thing is that it's atmospheric, it's continuing the narrative not think about what happened in the last debate with the. the. you have to be able to get back on the offensive. probably been told a number of things that he's got to say, millions of things that the president did not say, and hopefully they were -- that the needle get bumped by vice presidential debates. >> there a couple of moments we want to look at and get your reaction too. the first from the 2008 debate in which then senator joe biden nominee was barack obama discussing the role of the vice president and also reference to then vice president deck cheney. >> you mentioned the -- more pour than it has in the past. do you believe as vice president cheney does that the executive branch does not hold the founding fathers were wise in allowing the constitution much flexibility in the officer of the vice president and we will do what is best for the american people in tapping in to that position, and ushering in an
kennedy. but the thing is that it's atmospheric, it's continuing the narrative not think about what happened in the last debate with the. the. you have to be able to get back on the offensive. probably been told a number of things that he's got to say, millions of things that the president did not say, and hopefully they were -- that the needle get bumped by vice presidential debates. >> there a couple of moments we want to look at and get your reaction too. the first from the 2008 debate...
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. >> now you are jack kennedy. [laughter] >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys are not used to doing bipartisan deals. that is how you get things done. >> the republican congress working? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts. he did not demonize them, he did not demagogue them. he met with those party leaders every week. he did not compromise principles. he balanced the budget. >> why isn't he contesting massachusetts? >> what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy? >> let the taxes expire like they were supposed to on these millionaires. we cannot afford $800 billion going to people making a minimum of a million dollars. they do not need it, martha. those 120,000 families make $800 million a year. why is my friend -- >> can you declare anything off-limits? home mortgage deductions? >> this taxes a million small businesses. >> 97% of the small businesses make less than $250,000 a year. >> this taxes a million people. >> 97%. >> and you're
. >> now you are jack kennedy. [laughter] >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys are not used to doing bipartisan deals. that is how you get things done. >> the republican congress working? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts. he did not demonize them, he did not demagogue them. he met with those party leaders every week. he did not compromise principles. he balanced the budget. >> why isn't he...
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kennedy. but the thing is, the thing is that its atmospherics. continuing the narrative, the pressures on joe biden to do something that causes people to not think about what happened in the last debate with the president. he's got to be able to get back on the offensive. he's probably been told a number of things that he's got to say. many of the things the president did not say, and hopefully, i think the obama campaign is looking for the needle to be bounced a little bit, even though there is no tradition that shows that the needle does gets bounced by vice presidential debates. >> there's a couple of months want to look at and get your reaction to. professor watson is joining us in florida. the first from the 2008 debate in which vincent joe biden and the vice president shall nominate with barack obama discussing the role of the vice president and also reference to then vice president dick cheney. >> governor can imagine a moment ago the competition might give the vice president more power
kennedy. but the thing is, the thing is that its atmospherics. continuing the narrative, the pressures on joe biden to do something that causes people to not think about what happened in the last debate with the president. he's got to be able to get back on the offensive. he's probably been told a number of things that he's got to say. many of the things the president did not say, and hopefully, i think the obama campaign is looking for the needle to be bounced a little bit, even though there...
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. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> reporter: it is a busy day today for three of the four guys on the ticket. mitt romney is on his way from north carolina, in virginia later this evening, he meets up with paul ryan for a big joint event in ohio. joe biden is going to paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. meanwhile, president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have a dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt? >> chuck todd, thank you very much. rachel maddow is the host of msnbc's rachel maddow show. coffee is on me. going s debate, everybody said the goal of joe biden was to steady the ship, calm the nerves on the democratic side. did he do that? >> absolutely. democrats are psyched joe biden had a great night. you said at the top there was no clear winner and that may be, but it was important for the democrats that paul ryan not be the clear winner. most democrats, i don't know about independents, but most democrats think joe biden won. >> i think there's no winner because of joe biden's style, his demeanor. if we learned
. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> reporter: it is a busy day today for three of the four guys on the ticket. mitt romney is on his way from north carolina, in virginia later this evening, he meets up with paul ryan for a big joint event in ohio. joe biden is going to paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. meanwhile, president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have a dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt?...
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. >> now you are jack kennedy. [laughter] >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys are not used to doing bipartisan deals. that is how you get things done. >> the republican congress working? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts. he did not demonize them, he did not demagogue them. he met with those party leaders every week. he did not compromise principles. he balanced the budget. >> why isn't he contesting massachusetts? >> what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy? >> let the taxes expire like they were supposed to on these millionaires. we cannot afford $800 billion going to people making a minimum of a million dollars. they do not need it, martha. those 120,000 families make $800 million a year. why is my friend -- >> can you declare anything off- limits? home mortgage deductions? >> this taxes a million small businesses. >> 97% of the small businesses make less than $250,000 a year. >> this taxes a million people. >> 97%. >> and you'r
. >> now you are jack kennedy. [laughter] >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys are not used to doing bipartisan deals. that is how you get things done. >> the republican congress working? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts. he did not demonize them, he did not demagogue them. he met with those party leaders every week. he did not compromise principles. he balanced the budget. >> why isn't he...